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Valterra Craven
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Posted - 2014.12.02 15:46:55 -
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You know what's funny? I've made this exact same argument to Greyscale et al about skillpoints:
Quote:Skill point acquisition is very much tied to your subscription and the real money you spent on the game, so taking some of their skill points away can feel like wasted money to the player.
You know whats worse? When that logical argument is ignored by the devs every time they change a skill. One of the biggest changes I can remember is the change to the ME % in industry recently. Players complained and complained about losing something valuable and replacing it with something worthless. And you know what? You guys didn't have a single GOOD argument for why you shouldn't have refunded everyone's SP.
In my opinion every time a skill is changed regardless of how trivial or major, you should refund the SP of that skill. Period. No questions asked. SP is simply too intertwined with the subscription costs to treat changes to them so nonchalantly. |
Valterra Craven
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Posted - 2014.12.02 15:58:00 -
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CCP Terminus wrote:
Your point did not go undebated in the office.
Fair enough, any comments as to how the debate went and what actually decided it?
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Valterra Craven
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Posted - 2014.12.02 17:06:34 -
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Harvey James wrote:
i hope the against side won comfortably, you know when you train something it could be liable too change you just hope for the better, you can't insure against everything, eve is a game of risk
Except insurance actually exists in this game...
That aside, what logical reason are arguing against skill point resets on changes?
Every time Turbine made a change to how Legendary Items worked in Lord of the Rings Online, all of the points spent on legacies were reset. Every. single. time. They practically made changes to LI's every patch.
If something changes players should have the option of choosing to invest those SP into something else. Keep in mind I'm not arguing the extreme that SP should be refunded on balance changes like if they change the OP ship of the month like the ISHTAR and nerfed it. What I am saying is that when the skill changes roles like the Material Efficiency skill did, that the SP should have been refunded. |
Valterra Craven
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Posted - 2014.12.02 17:08:50 -
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Kolb wrote:
Didn't Greyscale or someone say they didn't want to redeem the points because it trivialized the efforts in training the skills up?
I seem to remember an argument along those lines, or something similar. I just find it incredibly hypocritical to not make the change to SP then, but make the clone change now using reasoning that works for both of the changes. |
Valterra Craven
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Posted - 2014.12.02 20:52:39 -
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XR05 wrote:UFS Fenix wrote:What is this? The ***** convention? So much crying, Lets just remove everything that makes eve challenging. This change and the changes to awoxing really make me want to re-consider eve. Yep, 100% true, 6-10 mo. and it's be "woo-online" so kids from 5 and up can play, may be somebody want to destroy EVE, like baby steps with this "micro" updates...
So apparently hitting a button to make sure your clone will retain all your SP is a challenge....
I don't think you guys understand what challenges are.... |
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